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Show OpenFlows Calculated Slope

January 13, 2021, 5:57 am
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From the online help:

Slope - a text manipulator for the slope of the conduit. If ShowOpenFlowsCalculatedSlope", in the Drainage and Utilities category of File > Settings> User > Preferences > View Options - Civil > dialog is set to False, then the slope is calculated using the length of the conduit between the connection regions. If it is set to False, then the slope is calculated using the length of the conduit betwen the centres of the connected nodes. This value will match the Slope (Calculated) value in the Drainage properties. It is read-only.

Both False statements can't be true.  What is the correct way to phrase this paragraph?

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Showing existing and proposed storm sewer pipes in profile view - ORD Connect 2020

January 13, 2021, 6:48 am
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We are replacing a single run of an existing storm sewer network with a different pipe (arch to RCP), a flatter slope, and adding a dog-housed manhole. I have been able to create both existing and proposed pipe networks; however, I cannot show them together. 

We'll need to show them 2 ways: on the roadway profile and as a utility profile. Any help is greatly appreciated!

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OpenRoads Survey Settings, Scale Factor, CE

January 13, 2021, 8:48 am
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Seems to be an issue with the Survey Settings Adjustment "Combined Scale Factor" holding decimal places.

OpenRoads CE > OpenRoads Standards > Survey Settings > Settings > Properties > Adjustment Defaults > Combined Scale Factor Global.  The factor only holds 4 decimal places.  A typical factor would need to hold more that 4 decimal places.  For example if you enter a scale factor of 0.99995 it rounds to 1.0000 and does not appear to be holding the number even in memory. So the actual resulting factor when entering in 0.99995 if 1.0000.  I have looked for setting to show more decimal places and non seem to work.  It seems to be a common default for MicroStation settings to hold 4 decimal places only. 

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OpenRoad Designer.

January 13, 2021, 9:55 am
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I am currently taking the introduction course for open road designer and I can not find the Arial imagery to do the horizontal curves. Does anyone know if we have to download it or does it come with the download already?

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After Installing ProjectWise, cannot access Descriptor file XIN within SS4

January 13, 2021, 4:21 pm
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I have a very complete XIN Descriptor file with hundreds of Survey Codes, and even Custom Operations.

I recently had ProjectWise Installed for use with one client.  I have been using SS4, and am trying to make the migration to Connect for that Client.

I also have numerous other XIN files developed for other clients.  Now when I boot SS4 to view my XIN file, it is blank in the Style manager.  In fact all my XIN files appear blank.

It appears ProjectWise is somehow keeping me from seeing these XIN files.  Do I need to un-install ProjectWise?

How can one work in SS4 for other clients, if I can't load my XIN descriptor files.  I don't need ProjectWise for numerous clients but now it appears to boot even if I boot only SS4.

There has to be a way of working in SS4 without ProjectWise.  Why are my numerous XIN files no longer able to open in the InRoads Style Manager?

The first task your video on migration describes is looking at the XIN file in the Style Manager.  I know they are complete, even the size of the Xin files is correct.

thanks.  

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UK Dataset

January 14, 2021, 12:42 am
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ORD 2020 R3 - Bad cut and fill mesh created

January 14, 2021, 6:27 am
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Hi, I created a corridor, everything is on the right feature definition for design and or for existing if needed.  When I run the create Cut and fill Mesh command Openroads is not creating the fill volume a it should. See bellow:

 

The Fill volume (in Red in the Dynamic XS) should go all the way to the curb and above the cut (Green).  I have also try to add a 1mm thin component under the top red component (end condition from back of curb) with no good result.  It appear that as if  the fill mesh will never go above the cut component.

Any help on this will be very very appreciated.

Thanks

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Why am I unable to see the rest of my target alias surfaces or corridors?

January 14, 2021, 6:54 am
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I have used the define target alias once so far for one of my ramps and it worked out. I am trying to replicate the process for another ramp but when I select the same tool it does not find the surface/corridor. I have my ramps in a separate model but referenced into my mainline corridor. In the picture below both my ramp and mainline are targeting existing ground. In the videos I have watched before I am supposed to use "Define Target Alias" to trim one end of the end condition and then use "Corridor Clip" for the other end. 

I should be able to see Corridor - RampH, Corridor - RampA, Corridor - RampE as well. 

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[GPK SS10] So many "profile element" questions - and one surface question

January 14, 2021, 7:18 am
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I have an "offset" cul-de-sac that I need to design enough to generate spot elevations for. I'd prefer to let the software do the work for me as opposed to trying to do it all with my calculator.

I have my "centerline" geometry which runs though the center of my construction. I can define a profile along that alignment. So far, so good!

For the "nose" of my cul-de-sac, I want an element that is radially profiled to a point on the centerline profile. the elevation of any point on that element should be radially 2% down from the endpoint of my centerline profile. This sounds easy. This looks as if it should be easy - there's even a "Profile by Slope from Point" tool. But I must be misunderstanding something, because apparently a point on my profile is not a 3D point applicable for this tool. I think this is where I am confused, but I don't know WHY I am confused. Can someone help me understand?

Along the "sides" of my cul-de-sac, I want the edges of pavement to be 2% down from the centerline, until the last 50', where I need to manually adjust those profiles to tie in to the existing EOP elevations. Profile By Slope from Element would take care of most of that, but it doesn't seem to have any way to cut it short. It's the entire element or nothing. Does that mean that the last 50' need to be their own element?

I was planning to just run a linear template around the edges of my cul-de-sac, but I have one small area where I will need to change the grading to something more manual. Does a linear template allow for end condition exceptions? After I have that and my profiles, can I just create a terrain out of them? Can I create a terrain/surface for the pavement section of my cul-de-sac without having to come up with a special template just for that?

Thank you. I may just need more coffee, but my head is swimming. This is a small job with no budget, and if I'm on the wrong track, I need to stop spinning my wheels and just dig out my calculator.

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Auto Annotation in the Features Definition Toggle Bar Power GEOPAK V8i Ss10

January 14, 2021, 9:09 am
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Is there any way to get the Auto Annotate tool into the Features Definition Toggle Bar?  If not how can auto annotation for a feature like center line geometry be accomplished? Or a way to do it manually?

Thanks,

New User

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Workspace

January 14, 2021, 9:59 am
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Can any body help with Variable with OpenRoad deisgner configuration ?

I have two workspaces "Roadway" and "Training" and 4 worksets "1","2","3","4"

when i openroad designer , at the pick up screen, I want Workspace "Roadway" integrate to two Work sets "1" and "2" and workspace Training assigned to work set " 3" and "4"

but either workspace "Roadway" and "Training" when i picked up at work set display all work set "1","2","3","4"

Please see snapshot

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Existing Profile Slopes are Annotated

January 14, 2021, 11:25 am
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I had ORD generate some profile sheets from a Named Boundary, but it seems to have annotated all of the slopes for the existing terrain (along with the proposed slopes as expected). I've been trying to figure out how to disable the annotation for the existing terrain slopes, but can't seem to get anywhere.

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Earthwork Quantities - Fill and Unsuitables

January 14, 2021, 8:26 pm
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I am removing 4" of topsoil was able to get it to show up in my cross section using the Unsuitable section in the End Area Volume Tool. However, when the fill is being calculated in this tool, it is not covering all of the area that is the unsuitable removal (topsoil removal). So the fill is only showing as the area between the bottom of my proposed to the existing ground. See picture 1 below. I need my fill to also include the depth of the unsuitables. Picture two shows the additional fill (blue shaded area) or the unsuitable cut, that I also want included in my fill. Is there some way to get microstation to also include this area in the fill?

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Overlay Not Working (10.08.01.33)

January 15, 2021, 9:04 am
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My overlay component is not working. It works when tested in the template library but not in the model. It may work 5% of the time. See images below. Any idea as to why it is not working?

Works

Does not work

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[Geopak SS10] Unhandled exception in concatenation

January 15, 2021, 11:58 am
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Doing nothing but opening a file, I get this error. It may help to know that it is a corridor file, and I feel like I've seen this sort of thing in other corridor-file situations.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
   at System.String.Concat(String str0, String str1, String str2)
   at System.String.Concat(Object arg0, Object arg1, Object arg2)
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.Objects.Tools.StringCombineDataImportStructs(List`1 items)
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.Objects.SurveySettingsClass..ctor()
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveySettings.PersistedSettingsFound()
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveySettings.get_Persisted()
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.MicrostationSurvey.CleanSurveyData()
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveyProject.MicrostationSurveyDeactivate()
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveyProject.CloseProject()
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveyProject.MyDetach(Boolean projectUnload)
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveyProject.CloseForm(Boolean projectUnload, Boolean forceDetach)
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveyAddin.CloseSurvey(Boolean projectUnload, Boolean forceDetach)
   at Bentley.Civil.Applications.Survey.SurveyAddin.SurveyAddin_NewDesignFileEvent(AddIn sender, NewDesignFileEventArgs eventArgs)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, SignatureStruct& sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethodFast(Object target, Object[] arguments, Signature sig, MethodAttributes methodAttributes, RuntimeTypeHandle typeOwner)
   at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture, Boolean skipVisibilityChecks)
   at System.Delegate.DynamicInvokeImpl(Object[] args)
   at Bentley.Internal.MicroStation.EventHandlerSet.Fire(Object eventKey, Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at Bentley.MicroStation.AddIn.raise_NewDesignFileEvent(AddIn sender, NewDesignFileEventArgs eventArgs)
   at Bentley.MicroStation.AddIn.generateNewDesignFileEvent(SByte* filenameP, Int32 when)
   at Bentley.Internal.MicroStation.CoreHook.DispatchNoHandler(UInt32* argStack, UInt32 mysp, IntPtr pFunc)
   at Bentley.Internal.MicroStation.CoreHook.Dispatch(UInt32* argStack, UInt32 mysp, IntPtr pFunc)

Running Microstation 8.11.09.916 and Geopak 8.11.09.918.

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Curve Data Table (ctcivil.ma) - Auto add feet symbol

January 16, 2021, 10:45 am
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Hello all,

We have been using this mdl tool,"ctcivil.ma" for the longest time to generate curve data table on construction sheet. It's a great tool nonetheless. 

Just checking if you know how to automatically add the feet symbol at the end of radius, T, and L? It's been done manually for the longest time, as a long time cadd user, one less mouse click is a luxury. 

I tried modifying "Design File Settings" and Dimension settings, no luck. Please see attached picture for clarification. We are using V8i SS4. 

Thanks in advance!

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Context Tool Box - won't turn on

January 17, 2021, 6:21 pm
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I am running Power GEOPAK SS4 08.11.09.904. The Context Tool Box no longer appears when I hover over any elements. I have seen the Bentley page about the settings in Settings>Snap>AccuSnap and have mine exactly as shown, with both Identify Elements Automatically and the Pop-up Info enabled. No luck. I tried doing some additional digging and deleted my *.upf to see if that was the culprit. No luck. Anyone know how to get these to reappear? Or what I might have done to make them disappear? They used to be there and we have not had an upgrade lately so I'm pretty sure this is operator error. Thanks.

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Cross Sections in OpenRoads Designer - How to extract co-ordinates of Section Cut Graphics

January 18, 2021, 2:24 am
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We've migrated from MX to OpenRoads Designer and it seems we are in the same boat as many former MX users whereby the process to generate cross-sections in ORD is long and frustrating compared to MX. A cross-section run to produce annotated cross-sections at 10m intervals for a 10km stretch of road is taking close to a day (6-8 hours) when in MX it used to be a few minutes. Further to this, the resulting DGN is massive (700Mb), which is another problem for another post.

What I'd like to find out is if anyone knows how to access or extract the geometry information of the sections that have been cut? The element type is "Section Cut Graphics" which we can snap to and Microstation returns co-ordinates for (in the message center or AccuDraw read-out), essentially giving you an offset-elevation pair - but I can't seem to export the co-ordinates out?

We've tried different ways to export the cross-sections (merging files, clip masking, saving as, etc.) but they all take way too long, there must be a better/quicker way? We also have some CAD clean-ups/post-processing to do on the cross sections, hence our need to be able to manipulate them. My thinking is that even though these sections are dynamically cut through the 3D models (using Named Boundaries), in the cross-sectional view they are simply 2D linestrings or shapes depicting the component at each particular section - if we could find a way to access each sectioned component's XY information as displayed in the section model, it could be re-drawn as a simple but static CAD element.

Does anybody have any ideas how to do this using standard Microstation tools, or alternatively through VBA?

ORD 2020 R3 version 10.9.0.91

PowerDraft SS10 08.11.09.912

Thanks,

Chris

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Change author

January 18, 2021, 3:58 am
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Hi. Is it possible to change the author and organization of an OpenRoads file? Thank you

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Export Corridor Template from Inroads file

January 18, 2021, 6:08 am
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I am currently moving various parts of a project model from Inroads to Openroads and need to export a corridor template within Inroads. I only have access to the corridor file itself and not the datasource. Is there a way to export the corridor template from within the Inroads file?

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