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ORD Drawing Production - Nesting Depth Value 99

December 10, 2020, 8:52 am
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I am using OpenRoads Designer CONNECT Edition - 2020 Release 2 Update 8 - Version 10.08.01.33.

When using the Drawing Production tools to generate plan sheets, it seems that the nesting depth parameter of the resulting Drawing model and Sheet model are arbitrarily hard-coded to a value of 99. I would have expected that the nesting depth value should have been "passed through" from the DGNLIB that is being used to generate the sheets. Here are some screen grab images.

The left side image is from the DGNLIB and the right image is from the resulting plan drawing model.

The left side image is from the DGNLIB and the right image is from the resulting plan sheet model.


Can someone please confirm that no matter what value is used in the DGNLIB file that the resulting drawing model and sheet model will always have a value of 99? Is there something special about this value of 99 that is being used?

If the nesting depth value cannot be controlled in the DGNLIB file, then is there perhaps a Configuration Variable setting that dictates the value in the resulting drawing model and sheet model files?

So far, the only work-around I have been able to come up with is to create a VBA macro to post-process the cut sheet files to adjust the nesting depth values in the drawing model and sheet model to values of 1 and 2. This macro is pretty sluggish, but I might try to revise it to run in a background thread of MicroStation as opposed to having to open each DGN file and model.

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End condition disappeared when superelevation is on (Inroads)

December 10, 2020, 9:07 am
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Hi everyone,

I have a problem with end condition disappearing when I turn on superelevation, Anyone have a suggestion? 

When super is off, the end condition appear as following:

When super is on the end condition disappeared as following:

Thanks.

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Annotating the Horizontal Alignment with Curve Box

December 11, 2020, 1:06 am
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I am using ORD CE 2020 Release 2 Update 8.

Can someone help / guide me in annotating the horizontal alignment(PI-curve details) with curve box (Tabular format) as enclosed.

In Mxroad SS4 we used mxtip file for annotating the PI points with curve box(Tabular format), For ORD, is there any other options for getting the same style set.

Regards,

Pugazhenthi S

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Simple Horizontal Alignment by PI - Why not?

December 11, 2020, 7:27 am
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Bentley,

I think you should task one of your employees to design a real project with OpenRoads Designer.  Which means modeling a roadway project then after corridors are created start modifying the alignments.  This includes extending alignments , removing curves and adding vertical curves.  I would bet all the corridors you created with those edited alignments will blow up, lose connection and crash.  This is my experience.  I am currently trying to figure out how do I dumb down my modeling. I would rather redo work then sit here and watch a blue circle spin around for a half an hour after every change.

Creating geometry in OpenRoads is such a nightmare at times.  Why can't there just be a "Create Simple Alignment by PI" for horizontal geometry like the vertical geometry "Create Simple Profile by PI".  I just need to add PI's , insert PI's , delete PI's and change curve radius or length.  That is it  99.999999% of the time.  I don't need 50 rules controlling my alignment.  For example, try adding a PI or curve to the beginning of a complex element.  Basically, plan on starting over with your alignment, profile and corridors. 

Sorry for the complaints, but these issues need to be fixed.  Designers are wasting a lot of time and money on stupid issues like creating an alignment.  At least give us a option to create a simple dumb alignment and the tools to edit it easily.

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Idea- Make Geometry builder edit act the same as Inroads check integrity

December 11, 2020, 7:50 am
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I missed check integrity from Inroads a lot, I have started playing with the geometry builder edit and there is a lot of potential for this tools, we could almost make it work like the check integrity from Inroads.  Why not adapt it?

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[IR SS] Potential Issue with ALG in PW when ALG is very old.

December 11, 2020, 9:51 am
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I had a user contact me today with a project containing an ALG, an TML and an RWL file they need to work on in Ss10. It has been a long time since I had performed this type of operation. While working with her in Teams, I noticed that her Power InRoads was not using the correct InRoads ALG workmode as we were in PW. The ALG was checked out and therefore locked from anyone else on her team being able to work with her. So I tried to help her get the file working using the ProjectWise workflow. In the process, we apparently opened the old ALG file in Ss2 using the PW workflow and this had the negative effect of making the Project Name blank and no alignments were visible.

As near as I can tell, we needed to first open the file in the normal workflow mode and then save the file to update the ALG to the current version. Then, we could open the file using the PW workflow and the Project Name displays along with the alignments. Fortunately, we were working with copied files and were able to grab a new copy instead of having to wait for a restore from backup.

This was done in Ss2. If this is still "broken" in Ss10, this really should be fixed. 

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OpenRoads / OpenBuildings

December 11, 2020, 12:12 pm
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can you bring OpenBuildinge Designer 3D model file into OpenRoads?

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Annotate cross sections openroads

December 12, 2020, 6:31 am
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How can I annotate Groound Z in cross sections?

You want to put z in the different points of the terrain.

Thanks

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[IR/OR SS4] Creating and Managing SUDA Feature Definitions Guidance

December 12, 2020, 3:22 pm
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I am looking for guidance for setting up SUDA/SUE in our Workspace. I have a basic understanding of most of the required properties for SUDA Feature Definitions. At least those that are very similar to other Feature Definitions.

Where this all starts to break down in Hydraulic Prototypes and Engineering Libraries. How does the software locate these? I'd like to make a group of these according to our standards and not see any other agency items. Our SUDA DGNLIB was created by others before I took on this position, and they are no longer under any contract with us. I don't believe that it helps that I am a Road guy and not a Drainage guy. One of the pitfalls of the compartmentalization that occurs at our DOT. I am trying to bring some Drainage guys into the team to assist, but I need guidance to share with them.  

As we also work in ProjectWise, I need to make sure that if something points to an external file, that file exists or is found no matter where the user opens the file.

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MX Road pavement layer doubt.

December 15, 2020, 7:56 pm
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Hello, what is the reason behind the triangle shape of the pavement.why it's connect downwards in one point..

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Switching from Inroads SS2 to Inroads SS10

December 16, 2020, 12:34 am
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I've been slowly trying to learn how to use Inroads SS10 after having used Inroads SS2 for several years. I'm struggling with getting some things to work in practice. Most of the time I feel like what I need to do is on the tip of my finger so to speak. But I'm bouncing between the Bentley LearnServer and various Youtube videos and I feel like I'm not finding the information efficiently. 

I'm primarily doing basic road grading (basic as in not major highways but the roads do have some grading variations) and site grading (sloped "pads", stockpiles, misc). 

My question (bit of a discussion too I suppose), is what others have used to learn and what they can recommend. I think the two main parts I need help on are setting up the styles/settings and then actually using the newer SS10 tools. 

  1. Stick with the Bentley LearnServer?
  2. Any good books to purchase that cover the whole process?
  3. Youtube channels? - I doubt there is one channel out there that has as much as the LearnServer but I have found some good standalone videos.
  4. I am also curious what 3rd party can provide paid training on this subject. 

Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

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Exporting FBX goes wrong

December 16, 2020, 12:49 am
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Hi,

 the latest OpenRoads Designer, version (2020 Release 3 Update9)

When Exporting Reality mesh into FBX,  It seems that the UVW  map of FBX goes wrong, the orientations of material are not correct, but with  ORD(version 2020 Release 2 Update 8 10.08.01.33), Everthing is ok!

See the following screenshot:

Please test, and hope to fix bugs ASAP.

Thanks!

Chen Zhengpeng

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MXROAD, Existing string tie to revised alignment

December 16, 2020, 1:03 am
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I have design centerline MC00 and design carriegeway CE00 and CE11. After I revised centerline profile levels, now I would existing CE00 and CE11 strings to tie with revised centerline. carriegeway string designed -2.5% slope. Is it possible it? 

Carriegeway strings calculated superelevation, widening etc I dont want re newly design those strings. 

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Profile Annotation - Linear - Line above Arc

December 16, 2020, 1:44 am
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I try to make a Profile Annotation Group in accordance with our National Cad Standard (NLCS, see image below). In this CAD standard vertical arches are annotated with a line above the arc (see yellow marked line in image below). 

Is there a way to generate this with the Annotation Groups in ORD? 

Thanks in advance,

Louis

The profile annotation of the Dutch CAD standard- in yellow the line I try to generate with ORD.

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[IR SsX] Alternate ALG Workflow for ProjectWise

December 16, 2020, 5:08 am
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Is there a registry setting that can be exported and imported that will enable this mode of operation? As we are rolling out Ss10, I am learning that many of our users have not enabled this setting and we are getting a number of ALG related service requests. If we could push out a registry file, I could had a lot of these off at the pass, TIA 

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[Ss10] Migrating From Ss2 - Wiki Page

December 16, 2020, 5:16 am
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I thought I saw a Wiki page or something similar that was like a dashboard for everything any Civil Platform user might need to review if just now starting to migrate from an Ss2 product to Ss10. If I am correct, can someone post a link to it.

TIA

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Sheet Seed missing buttons from Create Drawing Dialog

December 16, 2020, 6:46 am
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I'm setting up a sheet seed dgnlib, and am coming across a problem with the Create Drawing Dialog box.  (See image below).  I  am missing an option to select my sheet seed model, as well as specifying the discipline and purpose.  Has anyone come across this before?

I can't move forward with the proper sheet size because of this.

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Point controls not working

December 16, 2020, 7:15 am
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For some reason I cannot add any more point controls to my corridor. The only fix I can do which I did already twice when I first started the project was create a new corridor. At some point once again only to stop accepting point controls. I only have 20 existing point controls. Has anyone ever encounter this issue? How did you resolve it without rebuilding the entire corridor from scratch?  I'm using linear Geometry for control type and its a vertical control using a profile on a line off to the left. Thank you.

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ALG files

December 16, 2020, 7:41 am
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Very novice Bentley user here.  Our DOT has decided that they are switching to OpenRoads, so our company installed OpenRoads and did away with our InRoads capabilities with PowerCivil.  Problem is our DOT is not fully set up in OpenRoads and is still requiring ALG files from InRoads on our submittals.  Is there a way to export geometry to an ALG file in OpenRoads?

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Trouble Loading InRoads in MicroStation

December 16, 2020, 3:47 pm
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Hello everyone,

I have just installed InRoads to begin creating some plan and profile sheets, however, when I open a DGN from ProjectWise, I am receiving the following error messages:

I am relatively knew to MIcroStation, so could someone help me with this?

Thank you all!

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