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SUDA and Survey Data

November 25, 2019, 12:29 pm
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Folks:

I am curious as to how the community is handling survey data as regards utility information (existing water lines, tel Lines, sanitary sewer lines, valves, etc. and additionally storm Inlets, manholes, etc.) in combination with SUDA feature definitions. We currently have a proposed SUDA library with all of our proposed utility/ stormwater/ sanitary sewer information built into it which is working fine on the design end of things, but our survey dumps are strictly survey codes tied to line and cell features. In SS2, we used InRoads Storm and Sanitary to create existing networks from the survey data which was rather cumbersome, but which did provide good results (basically recreating the surveyed utility information within the SDB format).

Are you folks running two SUDA dgnlibs (one for proposed and one for existing utilities data), or are you using a single SUDA library which contains both existing and proposed utilities data? Finally, is there a manner in which to tie the survey codes directly to SUDA feature definitions (i.e., when the survey dump occurs, the codes tie directly to SUDA plan and 3D models and create true existing networks through Survey Processing in situ). 

Thanks!

Mark

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Changing Element defined Plan Named Boundaries Group

November 25, 2019, 1:33 pm
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I have several element defined Plan named boundaries. They are currently all in the same group report, but I would like to create a new group and move some of them to that group. I use these to create a volume report for excavation progress. The Areas are spilt in locations that are key for the on-site project staff but I would like to split them into different report groups without having to recreate these. I can seem them in the item browser/file I could have swore before that I could drag them to a new group but it won't allow me to do that anymore in the latest update. 

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How to write the Rules in OPEN ROADS

November 25, 2019, 4:59 am
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Hi,

any one guide me how to write Rules in the Open Roads for shifting of the Barrier at median from CENTER towards RIGHT/LEFT as per the visibility analysis.

as per the below attached image 

1.)Con Crash Barrier is in YELLOW COLOUR

2.)At the start of the image the Con Crash Barrier is at the Center of the alignment 

3.)At the end of the image the Con Crash Barrier is smoothly shifting from center towards RIGHT 

4.)Median is widened at the end as per the Visibilty analysis

Plz anyone Guide me...

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[OpenSite] Point Group Point

November 26, 2019, 12:30 am
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Is it possible to display Point Group Point:Points as cell elements?

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profiles in DESGNRD or MODLRD files

November 26, 2019, 9:02 am
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when I'm working on a 3D roadway project. should the profiles be in the roadway (2D) design file or in the 3D model design file? also does it matter where it is located 

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I can't access the Text Favourites Manager

November 26, 2019, 10:25 am
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I have lost the text favourites for some plan annotation so my annotation no longer reports the station/bearing/etc. This appears to have happened when associating the model file with a new workspace and workset that doesn't have these text favourites in a dgnlib. I would like to import the Text Favourites from the previous dgnlib however I cannot access the Text Favourites Manager through the Place Text tool, why is this?

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ORD - Place Point with Civil Accudraw

November 26, 2019, 11:24 am
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Ok I'm not sure how to ask this but here goes.  I would like to use the station/offset feature in Civil Accudraw to place a point.  The only way I can find to enter a station into Civil Accudraw is to manually key it in.  What I would like to do is to graphically select a location on an alignment and have that station returned exactly to Civil Accudraw .  I know I can draw a line at a certain distance perpendicular to the alignment and then snap to the end of the line to store the point and then delete the line.  But is there a way with Civil Accudraw to accomplish this without having to  round the station.

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[OpenSite] Point Group delete

November 27, 2019, 12:20 am
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Unable to delete imported points from TIN as it gives error "Cannot delete.  This element is embedded in another object."

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3D Guardrail Linestyle - Solids appearing in wireframe, materials not applying

November 27, 2019, 1:14 am
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Hi all

(Also posted in the MicroStation Forum in case)

I'm working in ORD 2019 Release 2 and I'm having some issues with creating custom 3D linestyles.

There are two issues:

  • Materials assigned to elements that make up cells for point components in the linestyle do not display correctly.
  • One of my elements (a 3D guardrail post) does not render as a solid/ mesh, but the rest of the components do.

In the screenshot below, the elements used to create the linestyle are shown (guardrail rail, flared ends, spacer block, and post) and to the right is how the linestyle displays when used. The guardrail posts show as wireframe instead of a solid... The materials aren't as big an issue as the posts. Anyone know how to fix this?

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The guardrail posts are Smart Solids, the spacer block is a Slab, the rails are Extrusion Surfaces, and the flared ends are Smart Surfaces.

Kind Regards

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OpenSite Designer - Create terrain by text interpolation - wrong elevation

November 27, 2019, 1:23 am
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RWD Format

November 27, 2019, 3:51 am
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Hi,

We have a Leica TS15 total station that offers a Bentley RWD format to export the fieldbooks data.

What is this format ?

How to import it into OpenRoads Designer ?

Thanks,

Bernard.

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Alpha Codes

November 27, 2019, 5:38 am
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How do I create a comprehensive list of Alpha Codes?  I am transitioning to OpenRoads.  The Alpha Codes that my surveyor currently uses in the field does not match the Alpha Codes set in my DOT delivered workspace.  I would like to create a list with the description and corresponding Alpha Code such as this:  EXISTING FL OF CONCRETE PIPE...………. EXFLRCP.  Is there a way to do this?

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OpenRoads - Place Point is placing same cell differently

November 27, 2019, 7:42 am
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So I am using the Geometry - Place Point command in OpenRoads with a Feature Definition of REQD_P_RWRM and the cell that is placed is supposed to look like the one on the left.  In some of my DGN files the point is placed with the cell looking like the one on the Right which is incorrect.  I have looked at the properties to ensure the cell that is placed is the same cell and they are.  I have also deleted the feature symbology and feature definition out of the active DGN file and re-stored the point so it would have to look at the DGNLIB's.  Once thing I've noticed about the cell is there appears to be a 3D element to it and if I change the model from default to default-3D the cell looks correct.  Not sure if this means anything or not.  I've attached 2 DGN files hoping someone could look at this and expain to me what is going on.

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communities.bentley.com/.../1234567MAIN.dgncommunities.bentley.com/.../GDOT-2d-ORD-Working-File.dgn   

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[ORD 2019 R2 Refresh) Survey Feature Definitions vs Point & Linears Feature Definitions

November 27, 2019, 9:46 am
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Our Workspace originated from InRoads. When Open Roads was introduced as an extension to InRoads, there was a bifurcation of Survey Features vs non-survey Feature Definitions, where you had to link your XIN twice - once for regular features and a second time to get survey features. This was true even if you had one common XIN that was used for survey and design. At that time, you could chose to use element templates or "native style" for symbology for anything you wanted, except for Survey. It required many settings that only an XIN file could provide.

All of that is gone with ORD, but we still have a bifurcation and I am trying to determine if this is still required. In my DGNLIB, under Linear and Point Feature Definitions, we have a Survey category and under it, is a complete series of sub-categories. Additionally, under our Survey Feature Definitions, is a nearly identical series of sub-categories. Eventually, all of these point to the same Feature Symbologies.

Under certain workflows in the past, we would export some survey points and figures to an ALG, but in those days, one Feature Style could contain Geometry and Survey Features.

As we migrate to ORD if I wanted to transfer Survey points and figures to Civil Geometry points and figures, I am not sure how this would be best accomplished, but equally pressing is the question, "Do we need to keep the linear and point feature definitions for those Civil Geometry elements?"

I'd be interested in hearing anyones thoughts and ideas on this.

I know that had been some discussions on using a "dumbed down" version of a survey topo file that no longer contains the underlying fieldbook, that intelligence having been stripped off so it cannot be modified. Under such a scenario, are any of the graphics still recognized as features or are they just MicroStation elements at this point?

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Coordinate issue in Power InRoads v8i

November 27, 2019, 10:42 am
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Power InRoads 8.11.07.615
One of my users is trying to use Horizontal Events to pull coordinates for some points in his DGN file. The coordinates that InRoads returns are different by several feet from the coordinates in the dgn (which I've confirmed by listing element characteristics, using the coordinate labeling tool in civtools, etc.). It's not an active depth issue (which I've seen do odd things before). Any idea why the coordinates in InRoads would differ from the selection of the same point in the DGN?

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[GPK SS4] Cutting semi-random sections through terrain - OpenRoads or Legacy tools?

November 27, 2019, 11:36 am
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It's been a few years since I worked with Geopak SS4, so my memory isn't sharp.

I need to cut some sections/profiles through my ground surface at a handful of random locations for some intersection sight distance illustrations. I know that prior to SS3/4 there was the Profile tool in the DTM tools that gave me just the results I'm looking for. I can see that is still available, but is there a better "OpenRoads"/SS4 tool I should be trying to use instead?

Thanks for your suggestions.
MaryB

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Problem creating a delta terrain

November 27, 2019, 3:49 pm
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I'm having an issue with creating delta surface. I have a large project that is broken up into 7 main areas. I create delta surfaces all time to show where our cut and fills are since I'm typically using them from a drone created terrain surface to existing or design surface. I have clipped the large Final design terrain surface with the shapes of my report 7 report areas, this helps the computer when creating cut and fill volumes and delta surfaces since it can do it in chucks verse the whole thing. I have had no problem with 5 out of the 7 areas, everything created wonderfully and as expected. However, two of the areas will not create a delta terrain between the drone surface and the design surface. I have tried breaking those areas up smaller and still nothing, I have tried it in a completely fresh file and import only the three terrains and create a delta and still it won't happen. Through all my trial and errors I have discovered it always errors out when trying to create a delta to these two area's final design surfaces. It will not create a delta to anything other than a paln when using these design surfaces, but I have know idea as to why. 

The work flow is to import or reference the design surfaces and the drone surface. Select Create Delta terrain (from the Create Terrain ribbon) select my design surface first, set the offset to 0 and then select my drone surface second and set offset to 0. It will think for a minute and then error out or just create nothing.

Below are the .tin's that I'm using, also a sheet that I create that is typical that is in a different part of the project, it is with the same process it worked fine.

/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/Design-East_2D00_C-reduced.zip

/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/2275.West_5F00_Exc_5F00_20191114_2D00_CUT-FILL-HEAT-MAP-_2D00_-11142019-to-Final-Design_2D00_000.pdf

/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/5922/Drone-East-Exc-11142019-Clipped.tin

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MX RENEW error (MX V8i SS2)

November 28, 2019, 7:56 am
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MXRENEW error message : Define Surface Wizard click Set string and click to Nex t : You will receive the enclosed error message.

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Any idea ?

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New DGN file with 3D seed is not opening in MX Roads

November 28, 2019, 8:05 pm
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I am using MX Roads SS4 V8i.I am opening new DGN file with seed 3D-MX-Metric. I expect a fresh blank screen but instead, an error window pops up. The image is attached for reference.Image may be NSFW.
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import export symbologies and feature definition fro ORD higher version to ORD lower version

November 30, 2019, 2:47 am
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Hi,

Is there any way to copy workspace from higher version of openroads designer connect edition (2019 Release 1 update 7 ) to lower version of Openroads designer connect edition (2018 Release 3 Update5).

I tried all possible ways to export feature definitions and symbologies to xlsx and xml from higher version and import it in the lowerversion of openroads designer connect edition. It get imported but with errors.

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I will be much appreciated if any solution to bring the feature definitions and Symbologies from the higher version of Openroads Designer connect edition.

Regards

Ilyas

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