Hi All,
I have two center lines, one is existing and another one is proposed CL as shown in attached image. I want to join them with a reverse curve (shown in green in image). Can anyone have idea how to do it?
Thanks!
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Joining two string with reverse curve in MX Road
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Openroads Designer MDL - Changing feature definition using C# ?
Hi All,
I am trying to find a way to set the feature definition of geometry objects based on their feature names.
So a centreline with a feature name starting with 'CL' would be given the 'Geom Centreline' feature definition etc..
I don't think it can be done in Openroads itself automatically? I could do it manually but there are hundreds of objects with varying names.
I have looked through both the Microstation and Openroads Designer API docs that are provided with the Openroads SDK, but I can't find ANY references to feature definitions or Openroads-specific properties of geometry objects.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks
Travis
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[CONNECT C#/C++/VBA] OpenRoads - Model Flags/Properties - Annotation Cell
Versions: OpenRoads Designer and SDK Update 4: 10.04.00.48. And MicroStation Update 10 (10.10.00.32 and SDK 10.10.00.23).
I am trying to create a model (a cell) that can be placed as annotation cell. The model gets created as expected, but fails to set CanBePlacedAsAnnotationCell to true. I have set this as a discussion since I found a solution. But I do have a basic question - that is, why doesn't the C# or C++ versions work? Or, what did I miss? Suggestions welcome!
Here's my C# code...
DgnFile df = Session.Instance.GetActiveDgnFile();
// to-do: delete model if it already exists
DgnModelStatus error;
ModelInfo mi = df.CreateNewModel(out error, modeName, DgnModelType.Normal, false, null).GetModelInfo();
mi.IsAnnotationCell = true;
mi.IsUseAnnotationScaleOn = true;
mi.PropagateAnnotationScale = true;Based on what I've been able to determine from other posts, this should be enough to set the model to place an annotation cell. What am I missing?
I also tried to create the model in C/C++. Basically the same thing - and same result.
DgnModelP tmpMdl = CreateTemp2DDesignModel(m_assemblyTypeData[0]); DgnFileP dgnFileP = ISessionMgr::GetActiveDgnFile(); mdlModelRef_setModelFlag(tmpMdl, MODELFLAG_IS_ANNOTATION_CELL | MODELFLAG_USE_ANNOTATION_SCALE, TRUE); // I thought above should be enough, but it was not. // Attempted the following based on ModelExampleHelper.cpp // looks pretty much like c# - still fails to set the CanPlaceAsAnnotationCell to true DgnModelPtr dgnModelPtr = dgnFileP->LoadModelById(tmpMdl->GetModelId()); ModelInfoPtr modelInfoPtr = dgnModelPtr->GetModelInfo().MakeCopy(); modelInfoPtr->SetIsAnnotationCell(TRUE); modelInfoPtr->SetPropagateAnnotationScale(TRUE); modelInfoPtr->SetIsUseAnnotationScaleOn(TRUE);
I didn't give up - MVBA does what I want.
Sub TestCreateModel()
Dim mdl As ModelReference, template As ModelReference
On Error GoTo ERRORHANDLER
Set template = ActiveDesignFile.DefaultModelReference
Set mdl = ActiveDesignFile.Models.Add(template, "testmodel", "na", msdModelTypeNormal, False)
mdl.CanBePlacedAsAnnotationCell = True
Exit Sub
ERRORHANDLER:
Debug.Print "Exception: " + Err.Description
End SubSo, since MVBA worked, I have implemented the COM solution in C#.
BCOM.ModelReference template = App.Context.ActiveDesignFile.DefaultModelReference;
BCOM.ModelReference mdl = App.Context.ActiveDesignFile.Models.Add(template, modelName, "na", BCOM.MsdModelType.Normal, false);
mdl.CanBePlacedAsAnnotationCell = true;And this produces what I want. My concern - based on several CONNECT programming posts, COM is discouraged and MstnPlatformNet, DgnPlatformNet are encouraged. But, it works so I'll stick with it for now.
Please discuss.
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ORD Install and Startup Issue
I have just loaded the latest ORD update on a computer but when I try to run the software I get an error message. I get as far as the gray screen you see just before the "File Open" menu appears but the "File Open" menu never appears and I get an error message instead and shuts down. The error message first said there was a problem loading LumenRT so I removed the software and reloaded it without LumenRT. When I tried to open it then, I got the same results but now instead of the error message saying it's a LumenRT problem I just get a generic message saying there is just a problem (nothing specific) and again shuts down. This computer used to have an earlier ORD version on it but was taken off months ago. I don't know if or why this might have any effect.
Thanks for your help,
Chris
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InRoads
I am using Microstation V8i. When I open the InRoads the application freezes and so does the either Microstation. It seems that within the InRoads Dialog box the geometry tab is selected but the program is showing site modeler information. It roughly 7 attempts before the progam opens normally and doesn't freeze. I have already tried uninstalling InRoads and also tried uninstalling the entire Microstation package. Any advice?? Thanks in advance.
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[OR Ss4] Undesirable JPT Coding "Feature"
We are finding a big issue which how the JPT codes is interpreted in Open Roads Survey. In a situation where a figure ended at a certain point and after shooting many other figures, the crew needs to start a new figure, but wants it to JPT back to an point on an earlier figure.
Setup:
- BC = Survey code for Bottom of Curb
- 1302 = point number of a previously shot point on another figure
- Need to start a new BC figure, some distance away from point 1302 and the point being shot needs to start a figure on a curve but join back to point 1302 as a straight line.
Crew codes the following line, assigned to point number 1527 as it is being shot:
BC ST PC JPT1302
Open Roads reads the BC correctly. It even reads our legacy InRoads Survey legacy coding of ST PC as a StartPC.
However, in addition to starting a new figure at point 1527 that begins a curve, it creates a second new figure, from 1527 back to 1302 but instead of using only the BC code to symbolize the line, it also grabs the ST PC, ie. StartPC.
For some reason. when a two point figure from a ST PC to another point is created, instead of drawing a straight line (because there are not enough points to define a curve) it draws a semi-circle, treating the two points as diameter points. And since it makes two figures heading in opposite directions from the same starting point, you cannot remove the StartPC code for the one direction while leaving it in place for the other direction.
This is very undesirable. On this one survey, I must have as many as a dozen locations where this occurs.
Am I missing something, or is there a configuration variable able to fix this?
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Alternative approach to Corridor/Template Design - 3D Linear Method
Fellow Engineers, Modelers, Bentley Operators, etc.
Last year in July 2017 at the 9th International Visualization In Transportation Symposium I presented an abstract detailed an alternative approach to working with Corridor/template design.
This approach is called "3D Linear Method". It is the complete opposite on what Bentley encourages in their teaching workshops, and consequently the opposite what is demonstrated by every major Department of Transport I have encountered. A brief outline on how it works:
Instead of single templates/corridors spanning the whole width of each roadway alignment, the corridors are broken up by element. 1 corridor per curb, lane, shoulder, guard rail, end condition, wall, barrier, etc. Each piece is connected to each other, eventually connecting directly or indirectly to control lines.
While this creates 100's of extra corridors, the advantages make this technique far superior to the designer, and end user (client of contractor) than the current approach for the following reasons:
1) Templates are simple, easy to create, and have no complex display rules so they are functional for the novice user
2) The same template can be re-used 1000's of times, across any project, making the data consistent 100% of the time, giving reliable consistent symbology when the data is visualized
3) The consistent nature of common templates used always simpler digital quantities to be extracted, as similar objects can be collected by symbology
4) Changes are more manageable - change only the parts you need to change, and the connectivity of all the other corridors will automatically be adjusted
5) More than 1 user can work on the same road in the same section at the same time as everything is broken into smaller pieces
6) Simpler to train - for those unfamiliar with a 3D environment, this 3D Linear Method is identical to criteria
7) Processing is substantially reduced - it is quicker to process 100's of small corridors with no complex rules than 1 or 2 massive corridors with lots of display rules by a factor of 10.
This technique has been implemented across every designer I have worked directly with in Illinois over the past 4 years, and there has been 3 distinct reactions:
a) Those with some 3D knowledge embraced it fully, recognizing that this is the ONLY way to utilize the software, no exceptions
b) Those with minimal or zero 3D knowledge dismissed it entirely, citing "This is not the way Bentley teaches it"
c) Those with medium experience recognize its power, and use a toned down version of 3D Linear method - they build templates that span all lanes, 1 for shoulders, then 1 for end conditions, for example.
Overall it has been received positively from those who understand the software's limitations, and widely used across Illinois Tollway I-294 project currently underway.
This modeling technique has caused quite a controversy here from the State Government in Illinois (IDOT) due to the radically different approach. So I wanted to hear from the greater community regarding this technique.
If you would like to contact me directly about this, feel free to do so:
Alexander Badaoui, PE: P 312.467.0123 | abadaoui@terraengineering.com
The presentation I made showing this in more detail is found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se8oQvVNw_w&feature=youtu.be
The attached PDF is a summary of the abstract presented.
This was geared towards a non-technical audience. The following power point below is more technically driven, detailing how the naming convention operates in Illinois:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dxq9nrm5z5vc63i/2018-03_AB%20to%20IBUG_May%202018%20-%20Part%201.pptx?dl=0
Thanks in advance for your feedback on this technique.
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InRoads Survey Delete Duplicate Points
Hi All- I am learning InRoads Survey (V08.11.07.615) )SS2) and I cant figure out how to delete duplicate points within my .FWB (Fieldbook) file. There were a huge amount of duplicate points when importing (thanks Survey!) and I cant figure out how to delete them within the FWB.
InRoads imported them as 1000, 1000_1, 1000_2, 1000_3, etc. Please help me out if you know how.
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Ribbon and Task bar in Connect
I know that with OpenRoads Connect, Bentley has chosen the Ribbon bar for access to tools.But if you turn on Task, then You dont have access to the Openroads Modeling tools + OpenRoads Drawing Production and Sunsurface utilities in Ribbon or Task bar is that correct?
And it also applies to other Bentley products You dont have access to all tools.I can see in Microstation you have access to everything in the Ribbon and Task bar.
Why this solution?If you bet on the ribbon bar you should not have access to the Task bar.I know that habits and routines are hard to change and there will be a lot of trouble if you remove the task bar 100%
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Mx SECTion through triangulation leaving field 1 blank (draping)
Dear colleagues,
Starting on a new project, I found my predecessor used draping on triangulation input leaving the field 1`blank, like this:
SECTion ,tri kwm inm,kwm
SECTion ,kwm
177, ,tkwm, ,
999
thus draping all strings in the kwm model.
I didn't even know that was an option (it isn't in the reference information, fields 1 and 3 are * mandatory. Never too old to learn, and experiment, I tried to use this with a partial string name to exclude other alignment's designs:
SECTion ,tri kwm inm,kwm
SECTion ,kwm
Uitsluitend de PRB Z; de andere assen volgen een nieuwe en afwijkende druklaag
177, h ,tkwm, ,
999
but no luck this time. All strings are draped, the partial label is ignored. I'll work around this, but is this intended?
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Exporting Error AutoCAD
Dear Mam/sir
The earthwork file is unable to export in autocad when the earthwork strings are on but after deleting the earthwork strings it is easily exporting in autocad....pls give me solutions for this.
Mxroad/ss4
contact: 9729027646
Regards
Sachin
Holtec Consulting Pvt LTD
contact: 9729027646
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How to edit a newly created workspace name and paths in OpenRoads Designer
I used the Create Workspace wizard in OpenRoads Designer and made a mistake. Now I want to correct that mistake by editing the paths that were used when I created the workspace name. I want to keep the name the same and simply change the paths that were used. When I try ORD comes back and states the name is not unique. Where do I find the location that the name is stored in so I can delete it and create a new workspace using the same name as before?
I am running Windows 10 64bit with ORD CONNECT edition 2018 Release 2
Thank you
Phillip Hess
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Subsurface utilities crash problem
I am experiencing crash events in subsurface utilities. It happens whenever I place certain nodes (inlets) or conduits. It seems to handle manholes fine. It informs me of the crash upon exit or re-entering and when I get back in I have lost these items. I started over with new files and the same thing happens. I am using Open Roads Designer Connect Edition.
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Profile Intersection Point tool in Openroad Designer Connect edition
Hi, I am new to Openroad Designer connect edition. May I know where can i find the Profile Intersection Point tool or tools with similar function in Openroad Designer as the one in Microstation SS4?Thanks
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Unable to export earth work file in MX Road SS4
Earth work file is unable to export in DWG Format when earth work removed then file is generate easily.
Please suggest me to resolve the issue.
Ragards,
Sachin
Holtec
9729027646
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How to Associate .DGN files in Projeectwise with OpenRoads Desginer
Hi All,
Can you please advice how I can set Projectwise up so that all DGN files automatically open in OpenRoads Designer? It defaults to MXRoad, even though I've changed the default settings on my local drive to ORD.
Thanks.
Hameed
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ORD Report crossfall / level diff report to offset 3d element?
Hi,
I need to report the station-offset with crossfall or level difference from an alignment to a 3d string - are there any reporting tools I can use to get this in ORD? Everything I try gives a zero elevation.
Its no problem of I need to write an XSL to accomplish this, but no elevation data seems to be reported for the offset element?
Regards,
Mark
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Mx Using Script in input files
Dear colleagues,
My predecessor on this project used input file commands like these:
script,save as dwg D:\scm_ma40.dwg
999
I don't know the script command, and the manual information doesn't 'give me any clues. One would think this will produce a dwg conversion file in D:'s root, but it doesn't. Any insights are greatly appreiciated.
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Named Boundary Not Found
I'm trying to create a sheet seed for creating a profile drawing, but I'm having problems with the named boundary. When I place a named boundary, all seems to go well until I click to accept my named boundary. Instead of the Create Drawing window popping up, I get a "Group Unnamed Profile not found" error on the message centre. Any ideas on how to sort this one out? I'm using OpenRoads Designer Update 3.
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[IR SS2] Set Profile for Circular Element?
I am working on a roundabout, and I am trying to figure out the best way to model/create it so that we can pull spot elevations.
My first thought is:
Main Roadway Corridor through the intersection
Secondary roadway corridor up to the Main roadway
Figure out some way to warp the resulting surface for all of the entry/exit roadways
My next thought is
Main Roadway corridor up to the roundabout
Secondary Roadway corridor up to the roundabout
Roundabout as its own corridor
Figure out the leftover warping of the resultant surface
No, I don't have any civil cells I can use, and I'm not sure I have the time to learn how they'd work.
I actually don't know if they even want me to do the modeling, but I'd rather try to figure that out than calculate all the spots by hand.
If I were to model the roundabout, would I do that as a corridor, or is that something better handled by a linear template? How would I "profile" my grade control circle?
Thank you.
MaryB
Power InRoads 08.11.07.615
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